6 February 2010

Uterque Calix

Can anyone explain to me why, on videos from EWTN of EF Masses, the celebrant (?always) appears to prepare, consecrate (and subsequently ablute) two chalices?

Are they crypto-Anglicans?

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No, it's not a matter of one chalice being used as a ciborium. Look for yourself.

10 comments:

Bill White said...

One for the laity, one for the cloistered sisters? I haven't seen the videos, though.

Michael McDonough said...

Based on viewing only one: The particles from Communion are being consolidated into one ciborium, after which the other ciboria are reserved. Then, that unreserved ciborium and the chalice are abluted, as usual. SOP.

Fr John Hunwicke SSC, said...

Um ... well, Bill, according to the rubrics of the EF the only person who receives the chalice is the celebrant. This is the point of my question. My suspicion is that in fact (some of?) the nuns are receiving in both kinds. If so, this raises interesting questions about how the FSSP and ICK do business.

Michael: what I am wondering about is why two chalices are prepared and consecrated.

Michael McDonough said...

Since the videos are of real Masses, rather than instuctional videos, it is very difficult to tell just what is going on from them (camera shots too varied, not always focused on the altar, etc.).

If you think it worth pursuing, I would recommend trying to correspond with the priests involved (email should be good enough), and putting the question to them directly.

JGKester said...

I believe one of the nuns has a severe wheat allergy and can only receive under the form of wine,I don't know if a dispensation was ever achieved for the E.F. That is what I was led to understand anyway

Joshua said...

Something similar happened at an SSPX Mass in Canada - one of the children attending had a severe wheat allergy, and so was communicated from the chalice instead, special permission having been obtained from one of the SSPX bishops (acting without jurisdiction as usual).

Michael McDonough said...

But if only 1 or 2 communicants required this, why would there be a need to consecrate using 2 chalices?

Joe S.R. said...

Because the priest communicates the host before receiving from the chalice, maybe the fear is that wheat particles from his communion may end up in the chalice. So a second is consecrated.

Joshua said...

To a person with a severe wheat allergy, to drink from the chalice, to which a particle of the host has been added - as is done at the commixture - would be quite disastrous.

Truly, one man's drink is another man's poison.

Michael McDonough said...

I see the point now. I had totally overlooked the commixtio.