24 January 2017


Going back to the dark sub-Freudian preoccupations of those 'Successors of the Apostles' who base their own arcane apostasies on their interpretation of some ambiguous footnotes in low-level papal documents ... it occurs to me that perhaps they are properly termed Podophiles.


Unknown said...

Covering their feet, as it were?

Unknown said...

Covering their feet, as it were?

Ben of the Bayou said...

Dear Father H,

Looking back at the dates of the comments on the other threads today, I cannot untangle where it is I am supposed to comment. Thus, please forgive me if I am commenting in the wrong spot.

I am writing concerning intention and the Sacraments. I understand well what S Robert B, Doctor Ecclesiae, has to say on the subject. Weighty, indeed. However, on one of the repeated threads, a commenter mentions the dubia converning Mormon baptisms, and their being considered invalid by the Roman Church. Now, this seems to me very much to the point and it was not responded to on that thread, these nearly three years ago.

I am aware that this is a fine point of theology, but it is germane. So, I am wondering whether you would elucidate for us how the form and matter can be undoubtedly valid in the case of the Mormons, but that their intention invalidates. It seems strained to the extreme to argue that they are not intending to do what *the* Church does, even though they are wrong about which is *the* Church. Very much they do intend to confer baptism even if, like those aforementioned Methodist missionaries, they deny the regenerative effect of the Sacrament.

So, are you able to explain what is the defect in their intention that invalidates the Sacrament?

Sincerest regards,


Prayerful said...


You don't need Fr to tell you the reason is that Mormons don't believe in a Triune God, the Holy Trinity. They mean or intend something different.

Given the removal of the head of the Order of Malta and the instatement of the Grand Chancellor, I don't think Modernists will feel the need any more to pretend that nothing is changing while consigning some real heterodoxies to the footnotes.

Banshee said...

You cannot baptize in the manner of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, if you believe that what is meant is that all three are deified humans, and that all humans will someday become deified to the exact same extent and no more.

They do not intend to baptize as we understand baptism; they do not intend the Trinity as we or any other Christians understand it. The only thing that is the same is the wording.